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  Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit

  by raymond frantz in

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  never become enraged against jehovah.

  (watchtower study 7-13 october).

  paragraph 4.

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  Be enraged with a homocidal, angry yet happy homophobic sadistic sexist genocidal maniac Jehovah? Never
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  I have a live one lol

  by paranoia agent in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cov9xvrq1p8.

  check the comment section for jw raiden25256666 posts, he just called me an idiot lol.

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  I am loosing my patience with this pro pedo homo sexist death prick.

  He called me an indiot, he never answered directly as to why I am an idiot and changed the subject, he asks for doctrine changes and I give him a link to jwfacts, he comes back saying that I can not back up my own claims and I basically told him that I don't give a shit and I will not be mouth feeding him, he then comes back with I dont use scripture and that I am not arguing with him but god!! LOL. I don't even believe let alone like god.

  My last response was:

  Oh right, scripture, my only weakness, lol. You are a liar as you do not use scripture alone. Without all the literature produced, many that are no longer available, shows all the changes and false teachings. Tell me, where is the scripture that the GB appointed themselves as faithful slave? How can you come to 1914 with scripture alone (don't come back with me with the counting since genesis bullshit because it does not add up)? Show me in scripture that 144,000 is a literal number. Idiot.

  Seriously I hope the fucker has a long happy life as a jw, and dies as one.

  End rant.
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  Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. beliefs

  http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.

  ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.

  london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.

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  The same Richard Carrier who misquoted Bart Ehrman in saying that jesus didn't exist? Richard tends to use a lot of confirmation bias, I also have little patience from the free thought blog cult.
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  What's with all the JWs unleashing the hate!?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  most of us here on jwn, while we can get a bit narky at times, can put forth intelligent arguments and sound observations.

  sure we can get bogged down with our opinions, but generally we back up our opinions with examples and evidence, and if someone has a different opinion with examples and evidence, we accept that without recriminations.

  that's what adults do.. so my question is, why in the last week or so, have a couple of posters claiming to be jws come onto this forum and berated, spewed hate and judgement, and in some cases verbally attacked members personally?

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  ^^^^ Because they've dehumanised us. And when you've dehumanised people, you can stand by and watch anything happen to them. The irony is that with all the empty talk about loving your neighbour, and stories like the good samaritan, it often boils down to a very simple exclusive club mindset: 'if you're not one of us, screw you'.
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  Getting Stuck on the Idea of Closure

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i may be suffering twice for having left the jehovah's witnesses and watching my jw wife and other family members stay in.

  once for the changed situation (or loss) and another time for expecting to make progress in getting over it.. the 1969 book on death and dying by elisabeth kubler-ross introduced us to the kubler-ross model , commonly referred to as the " five stages of grief.

  " they are very helpful, but the original idea of the book and the hypothesis was that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death , he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.. it isn't always the case, but those stages are often felt by terminally ill patients.

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  There are many books that tells you how to be happy, I know this might not sound like not what you are after but according to positive psychology grief is important, without these negative emotions how them would we learn from our hopes and failures and continue to be human? if you are grieving for a long time in my opinion I suggest you see a psychologist, not psychiatrists (temporary solutions for problems, after all you can't take drugs for the rest of your life) and you might want to read the happiness trap.

  I don't think the Kübler-Ross model applies to us anyway, it certainly did when I became an atheist but for most of us who family are in the ‘truth' loop between anger to depression. I think it's because we cannot find closure when we still have a chance, something to do with our super ego perhaps.
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  I have a live one lol

  by paranoia agent in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cov9xvrq1p8.

  check the comment section for jw raiden25256666 posts, he just called me an idiot lol.

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  Bigmac: Thanks satan! :0
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  Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.

  ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.

  london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.

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  bytheirworks wrote :

  Paranoia agent is very confused & deluded.

  I don’t know therefore I have no reason to believe.

  That is the craziest thing you have said yet. Not knowing... is to immediately have a reason to believe.

  People believe when they DO NOT know. They have no choice.

  They will either believe for something or believe against something... but by definition, you can only believe when you don't know.

  In fact, it is only when one doesn't know, that's when you ABSOLUTELY HAVE a reason to believe.

  There is no need to be rude, I am sure we can discuss this like adults. I was pointing out the principals of logic you were applying in regards to negatives, that you do not seem to understand the principles.

  Again you are presupposing that deities/Jesus/Jehovah exist, the old god of the gaps argument, the 'I don't know therefore god'. Why god? why not multiple gods or pagan gods?

  By definition yes belief can be based on the unknown, I can believe that magic teapots float around Saturn and that flying pink unicorns exist, but this argument is a strawman because I never argued that I have beliefs in the same that are like 'I don't know if I have a lost twin brother, therefore I believe or 'I do not know if I have an invisible fire breathing dragon in my garage, therefore I believe' or I don't know <insert here>, therefore I believe'. So is it really that crazy??

  Have a great day.
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  I have a live one lol

  by paranoia agent in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cov9xvrq1p8.

  check the comment section for jw raiden25256666 posts, he just called me an idiot lol.

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  paranoia agent

  So far I failed to establish a dialogue, he isn't very bright even for a jw, does not seem to realise the bad name that he is giving other jw's.
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  I have a live one lol

  by paranoia agent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cov9xvrq1p8.

  check the comment section for jw raiden25256666 posts, he just called me an idiot lol.

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  paranoia agent

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOv9XVrQ1p8

  Check the comment section for jw raiden25256666 posts, he just called me an idiot lol
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  Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.

  ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.

  london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.

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  bytheirworks wrote Saying Jesus didn't exist is like saying George Washington didn't exist.

  You can't prove a negative... so you can't prove someone didn't exist.

  All you can do is carefully examine the evidence presented that the person did exist.

  but saying Jesus didn't exist is like saying George Washington didn't exist.

  In which I replied: And you can't say that he did either, what I can say is that due to the lack of evidence I have no reason to believe that christ ever existed.

  bytheirworks then pm’d me:

  And you can't say that he did either, what I can say is that due to the lack of evidence I have no reason to believe that christ ever existed."
  
  1st of all, I have the choice to say whatever I want. Whether you believe me or not, is your choice.
  
  2nd, my previous argument stays undebunked.
  
  You can't prove a negative, so you can NEVER PROVE that someone didn't exist.
  
  You can only ACCEPT or NOT ACCEPT information presented that someone DID live.
  
  So the question is then: "What information are NOT ACCEPTING?

  I am curious as to why you pm’d me, you dislike discussions in the open?

  As for this post allow me to comment from top to bottom, I never implied that you are not allowed to speak your mind and I don’t think you understand that under your own terms on “prove a negative” is the non existing of jesus/Jehovah/deities, take your pick, because you are presupposing that Jesus existed.

  The rules of logic that you are applying are misconstrued, there cannot be evidence for absence therefore there can not be evidence for Christ because there is an absence of evidence. And also, rather than disproving Christ we can disprove the bible, we can disprove that there are any historical evidence for Christ who raised the dead and cured the blind.

  So your argument does not need to be debunked because it’s flawed, I rest my case on the null hypothesis, that I don’t know therefore I have no reason to believe.

  Have a great day.